Chit Chat Mum breastfeeds her bull terrier pup - now in mental health unit

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by helenheaven, Nov 16, 2004.

  1. helenheaven

    helenheaven Premium Member

    Hastings woman Kura 'Kat' Tumanako says she is breastfeeding her staffordshire bull terrier pup because she wants the dog to protect her baby girl as the pair grow up.

    When Kura called us to witness her unusual relationship, we visited her Hastings house.

    Within minutes of our arrival Kura, 31, and her puppy, Honey Boy, were sitting on her couch with the puppy eagerly feeding at her breast.

    Kura said she started breastfeeding the puppy after her own baby stopped taking her milk.

    She said her nipples were too big for the baby and she had to pour her milk away.

    "I didn't want to waste it so I gave it to Honey Boy," Kura said.
    The puppy was instantly hooked on the unexpected food supply and has been having two feeds a day for the past week.

    Kura said she would probably wean the puppy off in six weeks time. Her baby, Honey Pauline Philomina Flo, was born on August 29 and is now on bottled milk.

    "I wanted to raise it (the puppy) with my baby.

    "I wanted to bring it up with a baby. It will protect her as they grow up," she said.

    Kura said the puppy came from a litter of 10.

    "He drinks more than the baby. It doesn't hurt, but it's a little bit ticklish," she said.

    Kura, who is two months' pregnant, said she did not care what people thought about her breastfeeding the puppy.

    "It's my life, my responsibility. I make my own choices.

    "I'm going to look after me, my baby and my puppy," Kura said.

    Hawke's Bay Today declined her request that we publish a photograph of her breastfeeding the puppy.

    Personally I find that incredibly disgusting...although is nations such as Papua New Guinea they breastfeed piglets...

    [Edited on 17-11-2004 by helenheaven]

    [Edited on 18-11-2004 by helenheaven]
     
  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Premium Member

    I gotta hand it to ya Helen, that is some story. I believe we have all been done a service by the paper's refusal to print the picture. *shivers* Not a pretty sight.
     
  3. Zsandmann

    Zsandmann Premium Member

    Why oh why oh why. My brain just quit. It crawled out and walked away. Wait how can I know type how to kdsjfdkkk;lskj nmd kk
     
  4. JcMinJapan

    JcMinJapan Premium Member

    I think only HelenHeaven could find these stories. :lol: :lol:
    I have no comment.... No comment even comes to mind... actually my mind is blank now... The world is getting darker... All thought has now been eeeerrrraaassssssssss ..........
     
  5. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    ::because she wants the dog to protect her baby girl as the pair grow up.
    This sound like a movie. She probably watch too many dog rescue episode.

    ::When Kura called us to witness her unusual relationship...
    And she wants the public to see that?? Looks like she wants attention or is sending a secret msg to other women who is into breast feeding... c'mon now women, start doing it ;)

    ::"I didn't want to waste it...
    ??? What about other women? They're wasting it? No wonder why it's.. big. Why not adopt another child and start giving milk that way you can decrease the size.

    ::"...so I gave it to Honey Boy," Kura said.
    Calling a pet Honey BoY is a sign of brain damage! :lol: Sorry I can't help it, it's just too funny. I assumes this lady is divorce...

    ::I wanted to raise it (the puppy) with my baby.
    I assume the puppy is male. IF this continue and the mother doesn't get her brain fix, next stop she might want her little girl to experiment with this dog.

    ::Kura said she would probably wean the puppy off in six weeks time
    The dog will probably attack her if she stops giving milk. "The puppy was instantly hooked on the unexpected food supply and has been having two feeds a day for the past week."

    ::He drinks more than the baby. It doesn't hurt, but it's a little bit ticklish
    She wants you to know how it feels. :p

    ::Kura, said she did not care what people thought about her breastfeeding the puppy.
    I think she've been listening to "sunscreen" too much "Do one thing everyday that scares you... Enjoy your body, use it every way you can…don’t be afraid of it, or what other people think of it, it’s the greatest instrument you’ll ever own.. even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room." or is deeply influence by Dale Carnegie with the philosophy that "What other thinks about you is non of your own business."

    ::"It's my life, my responsibility I make my own choices."
    She just finished reading self-help book - "How to be independent" and is very very excited about it. A test would be great!

    ::I'm going to look after me, my baby and my puppy
    She Just finished reading management book.
     
  6. helenheaven

    helenheaven Premium Member

    Breastfed dog may turn savage, say experts

    A Hawke's Bay woman who is breastfeeding a puppy so it will protect her baby could end up with a savage dog on her hands, animal behaviour experts fear.


    Hastings mother Kura Tumanako revealed this week that she breastfed her Staffordshire bull terrier puppy twice a day in the belief that it would grow up to protect her three-month-old baby.

    Ms Tumanako said she started breastfeeding the puppy when her baby stopped taking her milk, and she did not want the milk to go to waste.

    But dog behaviour experts are alarmed over the unusual case and say the puppy could end up an aggressive dog with behavioural problems.

    Napier dog trainer John Lane said there could be long-term behavioural defects in the animal and he feared the woman could end up with a savage dog if it was trained as a protector.

    "You have a potential danger here," he said. "We should not be training dogs for protection – the only people that should be doing that are the police. I really can't see any advantage in doing it."

    Mr Lane, who has extensively studied dog behaviour, said the average dog would protect its family in a serious situation anyway. Dogs should be trained to alert owners to people coming on to the property only by barking.

    Massey University animal psychologist Vicki Erceg said a dog should be treated as a dog, not as a human being.

    "It is hard to tell what this (breastfeeding) would do – a dog is not a mini human," Ms Erceg said.

    "We are trying so hard not to have aggressive dogs. It's not appropriate to have a dog purely for protection."

    Auckland Unitec animal behaviour and welfare lecturer Nancy Clarke said a puppy's socialisation stage was crucial for its continuing development.

    "By breastfeeding, the dog will develop a very strong bond to the mother rather than the baby and potentially look at the baby as a subordinate member of the family," Ms Clarke said.

    "You could be looking at a dog potentially seeing itself as a higher-ranking member of the pack than the baby – the dog could become protective of the mother."
     
  7. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    You dont have to worry too much about that. Yes the dog will feel the mom is his mother, but he wil follow her lead when it comes to respecting the baby.

    ---pineapple
     
  8. Zsandmann

    Zsandmann Premium Member

    Not neccessarily. The dog will feel like a child, a younger child. Have any older siblings? Ever get jealous of them and get in to fights, etc. But you dont have fangs like the dog does. I foresee trouble.
     
  9. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    yes, but we are not dogs, now are we?

    ---pineapple
     
  10. helenheaven

    helenheaven Premium Member

    Personally, I would not want a mother who not only breastfed her dog but also publicised it....
     
  11. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    i can just imgaine her telling her tharapist "my mother raised me with dogs..."

    ---pineapple
     
  12. Zsandmann

    Zsandmann Premium Member

    hahahahahahaah Hi my name is Suckleswithpuppies, and Im an lactoholic.
     
  13. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    for a visual (NOT BAD), see below


    thats the type of pup we're talking about
     
  14. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    Honey BoY! you come here, uhh guchi guchi laualhahahll
     
  15. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    tablet, you sure like to misquote things, are you a reporter?

    how it actually goes is this(excerpts only, see all of it at http://www.ignorancedenied.com/viewthread.php?tid=1024#pid6145)
    Do one thing everyday that scares you...Sing

    alright, this was not misquoted:
    Enjoy your body,
    use it every way you can…don’t be afraid of it, or what other people
    think of it, it’s the greatest instrument you’ll ever
    own..

    but this was as well:
    Dance…even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room.

    lol, u sure you are not a reporter?
     
  16. Zsandmann

    Zsandmann Premium Member

    Its baby Cujo I tell ya!
     
  17. helenheaven

    helenheaven Premium Member

    Psychiatric treatment for woman who breastfed puppy

    A woman who had been breastfeeding her puppy so it would grow up to protect her baby daughter is understood to be in a psychiatric unit.


    Kura Tumanako, of Hastings, said this week that she was breastfeeding her Staffordshire bull terrier twice a day because her own baby had stopped taking her milk.

    Ms Tumanako, who is in her 30s, is reported to have said she did not want her breast milk to go to waste and wanted her puppy to grow up protecting her baby.

    The Dominion Post understands she was being treated in the Hawke's Bay Hospital mental health unit yesterday.

    A spokesperson for the Hawke's Bay District Health Board could not confirm Ms Tumanako was a patient in the unit because of privacy issues.

    An associate of Ms Tumanako described her as a "lost soul". It was not known who was caring for her three-month-old baby or the dog.

    Dog behaviour experts expressed alarm that a woman was breastfeeding a puppy, fearing it could result in savage behaviour.
     
  18. Zsandmann

    Zsandmann Premium Member

    Who didnt see that coming?
     
  19. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    Where does helen get this story?
     
  20. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    Definatly Not a surprise ending, lol