Technology Can This Black Box See Into The Future?

Discussion in 'Technology' started by bodebliss, Feb 18, 2005.

  1. bodebliss

    bodebliss The Zoc-La of Kromm-B Premium Member


    Well what do you think? Soon machines will be psychic.
     
  2. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    I do not believe that the machine is behind this predict, I believe the Puppet master is. Think about this. IF a machine cannot prevent 911 then it's not psychic. IF I make a prediction AFTER an event, am I psychic? or is it Before the prediction that would make me side-kick.

    The machine apparently sensed the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre four hours before they happened
    And why didn't anyone do something about it? People have been asking "Where is GOD" on 911 or the flood? Well there you go, God spoke but no one listen.

    Realistically, I do not believe this machine can predict the future. Because conspiracy theorist predict much better than any machine! So it's us that is making the prediction and code it into machine... not the machine itself.
     
  3. pineappleupsidedown

    pineappleupsidedown Premium Member

    Lets say this box DID predict 9-11. How did it tell us? And if it did, when it warned us about the tsunami, why didnt we listen? A what is this little black box for if it only predicts huge disasters? What was it made for and what does it do the rest of the time? And if prediction was what it was made for, why dont we listen?

    EDIT: alright, Icewolf caught me.

    So how are we supposed to react to this? Are we supposed to become paranoid every time it goes beserk?

    ---Pineapple
     
  4. Icewolf

    Icewolf Premium Member

    lol, neither of you read the whole article, this random number generator, gives out 2 numbers coninuously, either a "0" or a "1", the odds of this happening are 50/50 but during world events this changes dramatically swinging from lot's of "1"'s to lot's of "0"s. The quote given wasn't very specific, it seemed to infer it was giving messages like what was actually going to happen.
     
  5. bodebliss

    bodebliss The Zoc-La of Kromm-B Premium Member

    Maybe going paranoid everytime these machines go berserk wouldn't be so bad. You'd be paranoid if you were almost run down by a car, wouldn't you?

    Yes it's random number generation now, but if they could refine it without detracting from the effect, it would begin to predict future events.
     
  6. Mark

    Mark ♤♡◇♧ Staff Member

    Pseudo random number generators are rarely if at all ever truly random, and quite commonly generate recognizable patterns based on the seed.
     
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  7. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    Strange, for some reason the source for this news is not loading for me. What I want to know is how can those 101010101 tells us that something going to happen? Are we to believe in ESP and many unexplained phenomena as well?
     
  8. Mark

    Mark ♤♡◇♧ Staff Member

    The dog barked alot right before the accident, and now when the dog barks alot, we look in anticipation.





    ( Ok, it's a dog's analogy. ;) Reverse Pavlov? )
     
  9. tablet

    tablet Premium Member

    You know, I receive alot of static where I live and it got me paranoided that I want an anti-spy camera because something destroyed my light (temporary), made my monitor flicker and I can hear the static noise. A human thought cannot influence a computer output directly, only a machine can.

    So what caused the screen to flicker? was it caused by another human thought? Like by thinking of killing another human? Was that the reason why static are going through my room? IF that's true, I can predict the future and know that something bad will happen everytime I receive static because someone's thought is sending me static.
    The machine that think it can see the future might be under static influence or in a state of error. You know, like terrorist are communicating with each other... and somehow this black box was in the way. Turn on your radio if you have time, there are channel that make no sense because it's encrypted and all you hear is "beep, tick, beep tick.." to me it sound like morse code. Private communicate in the air and somehow my radio are able to detect it.

    Random Number:

    Computer requires input inorder to make output therefore there's no such thing as "true" Random because it requires a seed. Some random generator check your computer clock, check your harddrive space - basically, check anything that is on your computer and convert it to number and use it as a seed to do the math calculation. Without it there's no random. Here's an example of random calculation (not the best one though..)

    (((Seed * Computer.Second) / 2) mod 50) + (Seed^2 - Computer.Minute)

    Now, how on earth can a body of conscious influence/break this process? This is what I want to know.

    this box has quite extraordinary powers. It is, they claim, the 'eye' of a machine that appears capable of peering into the future and predicting major world events
    This is unreal. The claim is similar to the man who created The machine that see through wall. He claimed that his machine have Superman vision and can peer through anything!

    DEEP in the basement of a dusty university library in Edinburgh lies a small black box
    You know, places that are dusty might be haunted by ghost... so maybe a ghost/spirit entered this box and start going berserk? Well, it could be, you never know!!! Wait.. hold on it's speaking to me. Be right back.
     
  10. bodebliss

    bodebliss The Zoc-La of Kromm-B Premium Member

    I had problem with lights flickering so I called the electric company. It turned out the connects behind the meter were loose. They tightened them and I haven't had a problem since.
     
  11. mscbkc070904

    mscbkc070904 Premium Member

    Well first off where does this machine recieves its data from to begin with? In order to predict such a thing and with todays high volume of comm tech, is it feeding off tons and tons of comm info at speeds of light to interpret a future prediction??? No way possible. Is it paranormal, is this Gods way of telling us something is about to happen by disrupting the code sequence? Who knows, but will I put any faith into a machine that can predict future, no way. Macines are built by man, it does what we command it to do. AI does not create its own method for thinking, we create that to make it think the way we want it too.

    Or maybe NASA or any other agency/contractor is looking for $$$ for future budgeting of other projects.
     
  12. Mark

    Mark ♤♡◇♧ Staff Member

    Here's an extra-long but interesting read of deterministic & non-deterministic use of randomness in computing to perform intelligent tasks. ( Thought it appropriate to toss out since I found it while googling. )

    http://www.cs.fit.edu/~tr/cs-2004-17.pdf





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  13. helenheaven

    helenheaven Premium Member

    Okay, now I know nothing about random number generators and am a skeptic, and quite a cynic! And this will sound flaky.

    But something odd keeps happening to me, which I cannot explain but is quite lucrative...

    Best example to give you is something that happened yesterday...I went to our local casino not long after reading this thread, just felt impelled to go. I meandered around and walked past a roulette table, I KNEW the next number was going to be 30. I wanted to yell at the players, bet on 30 ! bet on 30! but of course I'm not mad so I didn't. 30 duly rolled in...

    I cashed in $100 NZ (US$71) then changed my mind and cashed it back out...went to a different table, lost 2 spins...then suddenly I KNEW it was going to be 30 again. Then I KNEW it was gong to be 32, then I KNEW it was going to be 20. I bet $10 straight up on each number and within 15 minutes had over NZ$ 1,000 (US$710)...(odds are 35 -1) I then had totally lost the feeling that I knew the next number, lost a couple of spins and went to play blackjack...I just KNEW I would win at super sevens. The third hand I played I got 2 seven's for $50, very next hand I played got 3 sevens for $500....

    Now that could be luck. But that wasn't how I was feeling. I just KNEW what would happen next. I put my money on my knowedge and I won. I left with over US$ 900 after less than an hour.

    Fluke ? probably....but it doesn't explain how I KNEW. I had no doubt whatsoever. Now 3 winning straight up spins in roulette is a big stretch for luck. I also knew when I wasn't going to win...

    I didn't hear a voice, or see a vision, I just knew....

    WEIRD!!!

    edited to explain (?) further...

    when I KNEW what the next number was going to be, I thought everyone else was mad...I kept thinking...why are they throwing their money away...we all know it's 32...it wasn't until that sense of knowing left me that I realised how weird it was to KNOW. strange experience, but I'm glad I had it (not the first time) :)