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    "Have we established exactly what the human spirit is?"

    You.

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    Originally posted by bodebliss
    "Have we established exactly what the human spirit is?"

    You.

    [Edited on 6-11-2005 by bodebliss]
    Just me?! Crikey, that's a big responsibility for one girl to take...

    Seriously though - "You" is far too general a term, surely?

    I'm made up of water, chemicals, enzymes, minerals...none of these would suggest anything other than a physical make-up. Where does the spirit fit into this? Is it made up of all of these physical agents?

    Where does the spirit reside? And of what is it made? Is it simply a word we use to define that which we can't measure, within ourselves?

    Is it consciousness? (hardly - comatose patients still presumably have spirits, yet they're not conscious).

    Any ideas?

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    There is only spirit life and all animated matter is spirit driven.

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    How would you measure the spirit then, bode?

    Or even discern it's presence?


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    Is your body alive?

    There is an inhabitant there and it is you.

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    Yes, my body is alive. Otherwise I'd have the best typing ability ever seen on a corpse

    But that's still not proof of anything other than the presence and activity of myriad chemicals, etc etc.

    I understand what you're saying, Bode...but it's not coming up strong in terms of "proof".

    So - should we deduce that spirit is about faith?

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    No.

    Allot of humanlike spirits go their whole lives in denial. It has to do w/ wanting to play a game. You think your an animal? That's fine w/ me.

    You want someone outside you to give you proof of something that on some level you know, but hide from yourself. Think about how convoluted that is.

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    Originally posted by bodebliss
    No.

    Allot of humanlike spirits go their whole lives in denial. It has to do w/ wanting to play a game. You think your an animal? That's fine w/ me.

    You want someone outside you to give you proof of something that on some level you know, but hide from yourself. Think about how convoluted that is.
    Ok, that's running to the obtuse, I'm afraid.

    So what you're saying is - if I don't accept what YOU suggest, I'm in denial?

    Weee.

    For what it's worth - I'm more than happy to say that I do indeed believe that we each have a spirit, a consciousness, call it what you will.

    But the post was about proof. Not belief. Interestingly though, you mentioned animals - if all living things (as you suggested) have spirits - what makes the spirit of an animal different from that of a human?

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    "I do indeed believe that we each have a spirit"

    And who is it?

    "if all living things (as you suggested) have spirits"

    That's not what I suggested. They are spirits.

    "what makes the spirit of an animal different from that of a human?"

    Nothing.

    The Game Piece is different that is all. This leads many to believe many things that are untrue.

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    Originally posted by bodebliss
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    You want someone outside you to give you proof of something that on some level you know, but hide from yourself. Think about how convoluted that is.
    belief without proof is faith, question is, proof of the human spirt, got any?

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